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> Why I Oppose Hillary Clinton for President, Discuss.
 
democraticblue
post Nov 14 2005, 01:09 AM
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I take a walk when I get frustrated with something.
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post Nov 14 2005, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(edzontar @ 11/13/05 - 02:58 PM)
QUOTE(mberst @ 11/13/05 - 02:02 PM)
I don't think that someone feeling strongly about something and expressing themselves in a passionate and determined matter should be seen as some kind of personality flaw or mental aberration that needs to be dealt with by taking a walk, for example. I don't think that calm, detached and "balanced" personal emotional states are something that should be at issue at all.
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Enough already.

Selwynn posts a whole thread to the effect that he needs a break.

In a helpful mood, I suggest that taking a walk might be therapeutic because that is something I like to do when I feel I need a break.

Now that harmless remark becomes the trigger for an endless rumination on how we all "should" get pissed off and how talk about takng a break or a walk is a form of oppressive mind control or something etc. etc.

OK, that is it. No more.

You guys take care of this business for yourselves.

And have a great time talking to the mirror.

I need a break, maybe a nice relaxing walk or something......
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Walking is very theraputic. Have a walk for me. I'm too tired from singing all afternoon.
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56kid
post Nov 14 2005, 01:16 AM
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I oppose Hillary as president because she's my Senator & unless a Democrat gets the governorship in 2006 it means that New York would lose a Democratic senator.
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post Nov 14 2005, 05:22 AM
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QUOTE(lojasmo @ 11/12/05 - 08:26 AM)
QUOTE(Nullwinkle @ 11/11/05 - 04:47 AM)
QUOTE(Melanie97 @ 11/10/05 - 09:55 PM)
Actually, I think Hilary will make a fine Republican president. lol.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why some conservatives think she's a threat. She is a conservative.
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Interesting comment. I would say that the same thing could have been said about her husband the triangulator, who moved the Democrats farther to the right and who fulfilled the Republican wet dream of "reforming" (that is to say, trashing) welfare.

Actually, a similar thing was once made about Howard Dean being by a Democratic Party stockbroker Harlan Sylvester, who was an adviser to Dean. Sylvester was quoted in the St. Petersburg Times back in 2003 as saying, "The joke among a lot of Vermont Republicans was that they didn't need to run anyone for governor because they basically had one in office already." That's why it was so ironic that liberals embraced Dean in 2003 and 2004. And John McClaughry, a Vermont Republican who headed the Ethan Allen Institute in Vermont, said that a lot of Republicans in Vermont considered Dean a "Republican in drag".

The difference between Dean and the Clintons seems to have been that while Republicans have had an almost irrational hatred of the Clintons, a lot of them in the state of Vermont actually liked Howard Dean when he was governor.
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You won't find many people here who disagree with much of what you've said.
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Agreed. As it was, I was stealing the "best Republican president" comment from the liberal Clinton critics.

I do wonder if Hilary won't be more right wing. sad.gif
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post Nov 14 2005, 05:24 AM
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QUOTE(56kid @ 11/13/05 - 05:16 PM)
I oppose Hillary as president because she's my Senator & unless a Democrat gets the governorship in 2006 it means that New York would lose a Democratic senator.
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I wasn't crazy about the idea of losing John Edwards as a senator in NC, but I never opposed the idea of him being vice-president because of it because I knew he was the best guy for Kerry to pick to run against Bush with.

What if Hilary is the best shot we have?
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lojasmo
post Nov 14 2005, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Melanie97 @ 11/13/05 - 10:24 PM)
QUOTE(56kid @ 11/13/05 - 05:16 PM)
I oppose Hillary as president because she's my Senator & unless a Democrat gets the governorship in 2006 it means that New York would lose a Democratic senator.
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I wasn't crazy about the idea of losing John Edwards as a senator in NC, but I never opposed the idea of him being vice-president because of it because I knew he was the best guy for Kerry to pick to run against Bush with.

What if Hilary is the best shot we have?
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Hillary will lose if she gets the nomination.

As far as New yawk losing a democratic senator: I am certain that Clinton doesn't give a flying fuck.


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post Nov 14 2005, 04:20 PM
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Lojasmo could you please take a walk? You seem a little tense. biggrin.gif


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post Nov 14 2005, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(lojasmo @ 11/14/05 - 07:19 AM)
QUOTE(Melanie97 @ 11/13/05 - 10:24 PM)
QUOTE(56kid @ 11/13/05 - 05:16 PM)
I oppose Hillary as president because she's my Senator & unless a Democrat gets the governorship in 2006 it means that New York would lose a Democratic senator.
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I wasn't crazy about the idea of losing John Edwards as a senator in NC, but I never opposed the idea of him being vice-president because of it because I knew he was the best guy for Kerry to pick to run against Bush with.

What if Hilary is the best shot we have?
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Hillary will lose if she gets the nomination.

As far as New yawk losing a democratic senator: I am certain that Clinton doesn't give a flying fuck.
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Well, I was being a bit facetious. biggrin.gif
I have other reasons I would prefer someone other than another Clinton also.
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post Nov 14 2005, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(mberst @ 11/13/05 - 07:37 PM)
It wasn't meant as an attack on you ed. Sorry if it came across that way.
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OK.

But seriously, it has become almost impossible to discuss anything seriously here these days.

I need a VERY LONG walk.


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post Nov 14 2005, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(mberst @ 11/14/05 - 10:20 AM)
Lojasmo could you please take a walk? You seem a little tense.  biggrin.gif
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Did he write a whole GBCW (good bye cruel world) post telling everyone how furious he was and promising to take two days off?
In that case he might need a walk for sure.

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post Nov 14 2005, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(Cheswick @ 11/14/05 - 10:01 AM)
QUOTE(mberst @ 11/14/05 - 10:20 AM)
Lojasmo could you please take a walk? You seem a little tense.  biggrin.gif
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Did he write a whole GBCW (good bye cruel world) post telling everyone how furious he was and promising to take two days off?
In that case he might need a walk for sure.
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Does that sound like something I would do? wink.gif :devil:


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post Nov 14 2005, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(lojasmo @ 11/14/05 - 11:03 AM)
QUOTE(Cheswick @ 11/14/05 - 10:01 AM)
QUOTE(mberst @ 11/14/05 - 10:20 AM)
Lojasmo could you please take a walk? You seem a little tense.  biggrin.gif
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Did he write a whole GBCW (good bye cruel world) post telling everyone how furious he was and promising to take two days off?
In that case he might need a walk for sure.
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Does that sound like something I would do? wink.gif :devil:
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:no:
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post Jan 19 2010, 02:26 AM
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Cheswick "third party chatter" is now advocating voting for republican women over democrat males.

Life is splendid on the innerwebz.


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QUOTE (Capn Sunshine @ Jan 27 2010, 02:28 PM) *
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Yes sir.


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